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Raised-Relief Map of Western Europe (With a touch of North Africa)

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Denmark
1.3k points · 11 months ago

Netherlands and Denmark are just painted on.

Denmark
677 points · 11 months ago

we're just the sea weed on the northern coast of germany and france

Yeah we have a huge mountain in Limburg NL, one of the tallest in NL, and they just show us as flat? :P

Deventer also has a small bump in the road.

If I had gold to give

Shitpond country
44 points · 11 months ago
South Africa
16 points · 11 months ago

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69 points · 11 months ago

Hey, we also have a mountains here. We have a mountain called "Mount Heaven", which is a towering 147 meters above sea level. And a another one called "Mill High", which is an impressive 170 meters above sea level

I'm sorry, did you say above sea level? How? Where are your dikes and dunes to stop the floods? ;)

European Union
12 points · 11 months ago

under sea level obviously. they don't keep out the water by hovering at 1000 m above sea level

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33 points · 11 months ago

That "mountain" is actually just a hill.

I am very much aware of that fact.

27 points · 11 months ago

I think they should at least give us some holes for our polders. Nobody cares about mountains, polders is what it's all about!

Sweden
7 points · 11 months ago

Aye, they get rad after Economics.

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Denmark
8 points · 11 months ago

You can see the little bit thats our mountain..

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Just above sea level
119 points · 11 months ago

What is 'raised relief' that OP is talking about?

109 points · 11 months ago

For you guys, it's like a depression map only it's in the other direction.

Just above sea level
94 points · 11 months ago

I actually think depressions are more of a Danish thing.

Nieder-Deutschland
106 points · 11 months ago

Finnish actually. And they seek solace in alcohol.

Suomi
172 points · 11 months ago

Did someone say alcohol?

Just above sea level
50 points · 11 months ago

Alcoholism, another list where you're above us...

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DANMAG
8 points · 11 months ago

Actually it's more a greenland thing.

Lower Saxony (Germany)
7 points · 11 months ago

Oh, so it's an expressionist map of europe.

Ulster
8 points · 11 months ago

You mean like this: https/www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/news/worldviews/wp/2013/11/07/a-stunning-map-of-depression-rates-around-the-world/

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How can Denmark be flat if our eyes aren't?

because your feet are flat

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Denmark
12 points · 11 months ago

The hills are not very tall, but they make up for that in quantity.

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Europe
26 points · 11 months ago

northern italy too

Portugal
19 points · 11 months ago · edited 11 months ago

Oh wow, wtf? I had no idea the contrast was so marked in that region. What's the geological explanation for that?

Edit: Looks like it's the Po Valley:

The plain is the surface of an in-filled system of ancient canyons (the "Apennine Foredeep") extending from the Apennines in the south to the Alps in the north, including the northern Adriatic. (...) Since the Messinian (7-5 mya) the system has been filling with sediment mainly from the older Apennines but also from the Alps.

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The Netherlands
25 points · 11 months ago

Well good. I don't like mountains. They're coarse and rough and irritating...

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8 points · 11 months ago · edited 11 months ago

Denmark is extremely flag Here is a picture of the tallest point, Himmelbjerget (The sky mountain) that I took the other day. (Look for the tower)

https://polar-ocean-4195.herokuapp.com/692e696d6775722e636f6d/R0ooIrX_d.jpg

https://polar-ocean-4195.herokuapp.com/692e696d6775722e636f6d/R0ooIrX_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=high

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Finland
663 points · 11 months ago

We have a huge mountain called Himmelbjerget in Denmark

The fact that you call it "Sky Mountain" is funny as fuck.

The Netherlands
498 points · 11 months ago

The highest point on the Dutch island of Texel is called the Hoge Berg (high mountain). It's 15 meters tall.

Denmark
306 points · 11 months ago

You reached the low countries when a sand dune can hold the record of the highest point.

Zuid Holland (Netherlands)
110 points · 11 months ago

Hey we have a hill in Limburg that's like 80m.

The Vaalserberg is 322 meters.

Still not quite a mountain, but its something

Braunschweig
117 points · 11 months ago

When I moved to Maastricht I followed a guided tour. The tour guide said, if she speaks with Dutch, she is speaking of mountains, if she speaks with Germans she speaks of hills.

Australia
24 points · 11 months ago

Hey I broke a sweat climbing a hill near Maastricht once. Sint Pieter I think it was. Took me at least ten minutes.

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Amsterdam
48 points · 11 months ago

We've got Saba, a Caribbean island with an 887m (2,910 ft) volcano.

Is this the way to /r/cirkeltrek?
29 points · 11 months ago

Slight political/geographic cheating, but I'll take it nonetheless.

Swamp German
12 points · 11 months ago

Except that Greenland isn't a part of Denmark itself, it's just a constituent country of the Kingdom. Mount Scenery in the Caribbean is on Saba, which is actually a part of the Netherlands proper and not just one of the constituent countries of the Kingdom of the Netherlands. Saba is Dutch clay.

Ah, winning by a technicality. The best kind of winning!

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Zuid Holland (Netherlands)
14 points · 11 months ago

O shit I underestimated us

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Denmark
34 points · 11 months ago

That's like typical Danish humour, though. Understated and snarky as fuck.

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Germany
684 points · 11 months ago

It's fucking 147m high x)

East Friesland
259 points · 11 months ago

WOW that must be a mountain. Our highest point is a sand dune on a island with +24.4m, highest point inland is anohter dune with +18.5m

Friesland (Netherlands)
86 points · 11 months ago

You are the first person I have seen with that flag, so may I ask if they actually speak Frysk in East Friesland?

Lower Saxony (Germany)
61 points · 11 months ago

They speak Frisian (Frysk) in a small town called Saterland. Apart from that it isn't spoken anymore in East Frisia (Ostfriesland). But there's also an area called North Frisia (Nordfriesland) in Schleswig-Holstein where they speak Frisian.

Amero-Dutch
23 points · 11 months ago

Follow-up: is the Frisian spoken in Germany (in Oost/Nord Friesland) and the Netherlands mostly mutually intelligible?

East Friesland
65 points · 11 months ago

Ha you wish.

Saterfriesisch: Die Wänt strookede dät Wucht uum ju Keeuwe un oapede hier ap do Sooken.

Nordfriesisch (Mooring): Di dreng aide dåt foomen am dåt kan än mäket har aw da siike.

Westfriesisch: De jonge streake it famke om it kin en tute har op 'e wangen.

Ostfriesisches Platt: De Jung straaktde dat Wicht um't Kinn to un tuutjede hör up de Wangen.

Niederdeutsch: De Jong strakel de Deern üm't Kinn un küss ehr up de Wangen.

Niederländisch : De jongen streelde het meisje over haar kin en kuste haar op haar wangen.

Niedersächsisch (Niederlande): De jonge strek 't dearntje um de kinne en gaf heur een smok

Ostfälisch (Niedersachsen): De Jung strakele de Deern umt Kinn un gaww öhr een Säuten up de Wangen.

Hochdeutsch: Der Junge streichelte dem Mädchen ums Kinn und küsste es auf die Wangen.

Englisch: The boy stroked the girl around the chin and kissed her on the cheeks.

From the https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saterfriesische_Sprache (German) you can find some books

To make it more complicated even one Town 20km from another may speak/write some words differently

Amero-Dutch
11 points · 11 months ago

Thanks! Yeah I could imagine some divergence but was wondering if there was understandable pronunciation (amongst Frisians) and vocabulary.

It looks like there's about as much understanding between two 'Frisian' speakers from different regions as there is between a Dutch speaker (like myself) trying to understand Dutch Frisian (I can't).

North Rhine-Westphalia (Germany)
13 points · 11 months ago

Möönsterläner Platt (Mönsterländer Platt / Westphälisch): De Jung strakel de Düürn um't kiin au küüst et op daa waang'n.
i'm posible the last nativ speaker (30 years old) of it, but im loosing it hard since my grandfather died, and i moved away from home. I can still manage to speak with my best body (east friesin). But it is hard to keep a language when you cant use it...

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Center Frisian represent!

East Friesland
11 points · 11 months ago

There are a few of us here with this flag. My Grandmother was the last one that could speak it from from the frisian side of my family, died in the 80s at 84. I know myself only a little bit. We speek this days only plat (+German/Dutch) https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plat_(taal).

In the 70s nearly all our teachers are from ruhrpott and the did not like the local language and as Milton_Smith pointed out execept in a small region to the south the language ist mostly forgotten here.

The try to reviving some of the old, aka printing books, teaching and so on. There is more of our own culture this days as a few decades ago.....

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Sweden
6 points · 11 months ago

147m is insanely high in Denmark. You don't want to go there without bringing an oxygen tank.

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Lithuania/GB/Australia
105 points · 11 months ago

I'll be going there in August!

Will I need any sort of special breathing apparatus, or climbing gear for the ascent?

Should I inform someone before I leave in case the weather turns bad and I get stuck on the summit?

Norway
28 points · 11 months ago

Many have passed away trying.. you sure you are willing to risk your life for this??

Lithuania/GB/Australia
12 points · 11 months ago

It's my YOLO moment.

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UK-Lib Dem|Leave
32 points · 11 months ago

You should write out your will and sort out your estate before you go, you might want to call suicide prevention before you go to ad climbing this dune is suicide, not one soul has made it half way up and come down to tell the tale.

turn back

Out of curiosity - are you coming for the Regatta?

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United States of America
71 points · 11 months ago

Oh yeah? Behold the mighty Vaalserberg!

Denmark
37 points · 11 months ago
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33 points · 11 months ago

Oh my, I'm shivering just by watching it.

...and they own like a third of it. Way to go, Dutch people

United States of America
24 points · 11 months ago

The church in Holland banned depictions of the Alps as superstitious blasphemy

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We do have a bigger mountain.. the Netherlands has territory outside of Europe.

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Bouvet Island
7 points · 11 months ago

so majestic

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Baden-Württemberg (Germany)
103 points · 11 months ago

Himmelbjerget "huge"

Ah you danish make the best jokes.

Greeting from the hilly Black Forest.

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Himmelbjerget

I heard the Bolivian national team does high altitude training there.

India
13 points · 11 months ago

Wow I didn't know Denmark was this flat

It's even flatter

Portugal
22 points · 11 months ago

flattering.

We have the great egg-mountain in Estonia which is absent as well

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Schleswig-Holstein (Germany)
5 points · 11 months ago

And we called our most hilly area "Holstein Switzerland" The highest "Mountain" is 167m high.

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European Union
219 points · 11 months ago

I like it, but I am not so sure about the depiction of the Iberian Peninsula as a some sort of desert wasteland.

It's actually a map from 50 years in the future.

The Netherlands
86 points · 11 months ago

Why are we not flooded then? :p

Nieder-Deutschland
51 points · 11 months ago

Like always: dikes and windmills steam-powered pumps!

Cause you guys are the best water engineers in the whole fucking world

The Netherlands
15 points · 11 months ago

We told the North Sea not to, pointing to the corpse of the South Sea to show it what would happen if it tried.

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España
140 points · 11 months ago

While now in summer it is not very green, it certainly isn't a white, sandy desert. Source: this was taken yesterday.

Okay, I gotta ask, does Portugal have some kind of anti-cloud defense system? I mean, what's up with that?

Portugal
137 points · 11 months ago

We have over 300 sunny days per year, sometimes I even forget the sky can be a different color from blue.

Portugal
42 points · 11 months ago

We must live in totally different places. We have about 9 months of winter where the sky is never blue.

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Brazil
8 points · 11 months ago

Now I get it why you guys were so comfortable when you came here, the sky behaves just the same! A match made in heaven...

Portugal
6 points · 11 months ago

I work with some Brasilians, they all say that each year our weather becames closer and closer to the weather in Brasil. climate change I guess.

Swamp German
6 points · 11 months ago

I have the same feeling about the sky, but with grey instead of blue.

United Kingdom
5 points · 11 months ago

I know that feel bro

I think the Dutch will wanna have a word with you.

Malta here. I see the Portuguese have stolen our anti-cloud defense system!

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Castilla-La Mancha (Spain)
34 points · 11 months ago

We call them windshield for a reason

I did not know that. :)

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France
17 points · 11 months ago

Probably a picture taken by satellite so it's a mix up of several pictures, they picked one without cloud I think for the land one.

España
27 points · 11 months ago

No, it is not the case in this image. This is a single acquisition by the MODIS instrument aboard NASA Aqua satellite, taken yesterday at 13:15 UTC. Here's the raw data.

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United Kingdom
14 points · 11 months ago

You get the same thing in the UK: https://feww.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/uk-haze-nasa.jpg

Basically it's low cloud that forms because of the difference in temperature between the air above and the sea. Overnight, the low cloud might move inland, and then during the day it burns back, hugging the coastline. In the UK it's often called haar or sea fret.

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Portugal
8 points · 11 months ago

That's mostly fog. I'm not sure if technically there's a difference.

Its sometimes like that during the summer. My guess is it's sea water evaporation during very hot days, and depending on the winds.

Yesterday I walked near the sea in the afternoon. 20m-40m near the coast was foggy, but inland was searing hot.

Finland
5 points · 11 months ago

Hot air can contain more humidity before it condenses into clouds. Sea = cold air, land = warm air.

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Where do you get a day old satelite-images?

España
23 points · 11 months ago

This one from here. But they have this very handy interface now where you can add a lot of different layers and so on.

Note that all these are low-medium res, for a bit higher (10m per pixel) you can browse Sentinel-2 imaginery here, although revisit time is lower. When the second Sentinel-2 data pipe is fully operative we should get images each 4-5 days I think.

Also you can take a look at the geostationary Meteosat images, they are more real-time but of course of much lower resolution.

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Spain
8 points · 11 months ago

But it's not a desert.

Castilla-La Mancha (Spain)
3 points · 11 months ago

Is not a dessert, but the picture is fair. In summer, where I live, I can't see green, only yellow and red in the country.

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Hungary
303 points · 11 months ago
France
51 points · 11 months ago

how/where do you get these pictures ?

Hungary
122 points · 11 months ago

I figured there could be a bigger version, so I right-clicked the image in Chrome and hit "Search Google for this image". It brings up a page with "Find other sizes of this image: All sizes - Medium - Large" and I clicked Large. This is a really amazing feature of Google, it tracks images and knows which are scaled versions of each other.

France
37 points · 11 months ago

I hoped there would be a website where you could select a place and it would render it for you

Sweden
85 points · 11 months agoGilded1

the good news is, you can do it yourself!
step 1: choose a 3D modeling package. Blender is free. Cinema4D has a plugin dedicated to this.
step 2: aquire a heightmap. DEM data is what you're looking for. you could even google "europe heightmap
step 3: render that shizniz.

the technique is the same, but terminology can vary between software.
in the end, you use a heightmap to generate 3D geometry.
i actually do the same, using custom generated terrain instead of real world geometry

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Yeah I would love to play around in this like google earth. I found some more pictures from the same gallery.

Link

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28 points · 11 months ago

The name of the guy who made them is Anton Balazh and you can get most of his maps here, https://www.shutterstock.com/g/Anton+Balazh.

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United Kingdom
Original Poster451 points · 11 months ago · edited 11 months ago

A raised-relief map of central/eastern Europe (with a touch of Turkey ;) )

https://m.imgur.com/r/MapPorn/apfVsTY

[deleted]
97 points · 11 months ago

Greece looks like an uninhabitable rocky wasteland.

For the most part it was. What I think Smaug is talking about in his comment is that because of how rocky it was interactions between city states where rare and trade dangerous over land. That's why Greece became such a naval power. The people had to learn to be good sailors just to travel and trade.

The Netherlands
16 points · 11 months ago

Which is a good part of the reason the ancient Greek city states were able to thrive in the way they did.

8 points · 11 months ago

And a good part of why the Greeks were so keen to colonize the flat agricultural valleys of what is now western Turkey.

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Earth
21 points · 11 months ago

gib island pls

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Nieder-Deutschland
213 points · 11 months ago

Silly man, if you made that a second post you could have harvest double the karma!

United Kingdom
Original Poster184 points · 11 months agoGilded1 · edited 11 months ago

That's okay :D you can post it for the karma

Edit:

Thanks to /u/Orleanian for my first gold ❤️❤️

Are you reddit Jesus?

He got downvoted for our sins

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may i ask how this is made?

United Kingdom
Original Poster57 points · 11 months ago

The author took 3D spatial data from a NASA and then re-scaled the z axis to exaggerate the relief. I'm not sure exactly what software was used, sorry :/

Thanks, gotta love NASA

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Do you have a link? :)

United Kingdom
Original Poster27 points · 11 months ago

Here you go my friend

https://www.shutterstock.com/g/Anton+Balazh

That's the author's shutterstock. It is all royalty free afaik

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Belgium
8 points · 11 months ago

You may ask.

Permission granted.

Sweden
7 points · 11 months ago

step 1: choose a 3D modeling package. Blender is free. Cinema4D has a plugin dedicated to this.
step 2: aquire a heightmap. DEM data is what you're looking for. you could even google "europe heightmap
step 3: render that shizniz.

the technique is the same, but terminology can vary between software.
in the end, you use a heightmap to generate 3D geometry.
i actually do the same, using custom generated terrain instead of real world geometry

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Ethpanya
12 points · 11 months ago

Is Eastern Europe Mordor?

III Spanish Republic
9 points · 11 months ago

Makes sense, Hungary fits the bill with the weird-ass language and of course the shape, plus they have some hot water springs...there must be a volcano somewhere in there

Ireland
6 points · 11 months ago

You can really see why Ukraine is known as the Bread Basket of Europe

Norway
14 points · 11 months ago

This is why Norway doesn't fear climate change. We will definitively still be above water...

Too bad most houses are by the coast, and fairly close to the water line...

4 points · 11 months ago

Meh, not close enough for a significant portion to go under.

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119 points · 11 months ago

Ahh, the glorious Roman Empire!

Franconia
63 points · 11 months ago
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kebab who is whiter than a nordic guy.
63 points · 11 months ago

It looks like a Civ V map.

I was thinking r/civ would like this.

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Nieder-Deutschland
27 points · 11 months ago

With exaggerated relief Spain, Portugal, and France have no flat land at all. And the Italian Po-valley is about as flat as the Netherlands (which is clearly not entirely flat, the Veluwe area is hilly).

It's also nice to see how expansive the Norwegian relief is. Driving in the Alps has some fun parts, but you stick mostly to long valleys. Driving in Norway is like a vast region of only interesting & fun parts :D

Guernsey
23 points · 11 months ago · edited 11 months ago

I didn't realise just how mountainous the Pyrenees and Alps are. Makes Hannibals crossing all the more impressive.

Also, glad to see Guernsey on a map of Europe!

Edit: Oh I see it's an exaggerated relief. I should have read the title I'm an idiot

Union of Iberian Socialist Republics
27 points · 11 months ago

You didn't realise how mountainous those two mountain chains are?

Guernsey
4 points · 11 months ago

It was probably a bad choice of words. I meant I was surprised how stark the contrast was. Bear in mind I come from a tiny island that barely has so much as a hill. Mountains are a bit alien to me it's easy to forget the scale of stuff in real countries!

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Could we have a version of Scandinavia?

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Norway
37 points · 11 months ago

It is pretty extreme. The 100 highest peaks in the Scandinavian Mountain Range are all in Norway.

9 points · 11 months ago

And why is Swedens third biggest lake missing?

Sweden
6 points · 11 months ago

Do we have more than two lakes? I only knew that a jötunn lifted up Gotland and Öland and threw them out to sea, and so Vänern and Vättern were created.

But I suppose the islands of Ven and Bornholm came from somewhere as well...

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Lower Saxony (Germany)
12 points · 11 months ago

I see you rightfully included the whole Swedish Empire ;)

Norway
23 points · 11 months ago

What a beautiful sight...! I'm almost tearing up. (And no, I'm not kidding..)

Norway
6 points · 11 months ago

Enig og tro til Dovre faller!

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Scotland
70 points · 11 months ago

Spain and Italy are thicc

Castilla-La Mancha (Spain)
12 points · 11 months ago

No need to worry about sea level

Alacant
17 points · 11 months ago

Bit of ironing wouldn't be bad, no. :P

I love mountains.

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Reminds me a bit about the crusader kings 2 opening map.

Albania
6 points · 11 months ago

Reminds me of medieval total war

9 points · 11 months ago

Would love to see it with country borders drawn on for a bit more context.

Austria
30 points · 11 months ago

Question: The scale of this map is not correct, right? What I mean is that the mountains appear way too high. Or am I wrong?

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72 points · 11 months ago

That's what raised relief means

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Norway
18 points · 11 months ago

If this was real we would all need to learn rock climbing up here..

Austria
5 points · 11 months ago

I would probably die when I want to visit my parents

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16 points · 11 months ago

Crazy how mountainous Spain is. Brits tend to think of it as a massive beach.

Sweden
13 points · 11 months ago · edited 11 months ago

Reasonable. Whales usually don't venture inland.

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Australia
23 points · 11 months ago

Victoria 3 confirmed?

Australia
20 points · 11 months ago

Vicky 3 really is starting to become like Half-Life 3 at this point

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Alsace (France)
10 points · 11 months ago

That's a new one

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Australia
3 points · 11 months ago

I'd say. The main issue is how their studio works. For projects like that to get started you as a dev need to get a team together and have a proof of concept. This takes a lot of effort and so you'd have to be quite invested in it. Basically if they aren't hyped about making the game it won't be made.

Plus their main devs are currently in love with CK2, EU4 and Stellaris.

HoI4 lives in a cupboard under the stairs.

Australia
4 points · 11 months ago

lol true that

That's a relief.

Austria
5 points · 11 months ago

What is this North Africa you speak of, that large mass in the south is the hallowed land of jakubmarian.com

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The Netherlands
11 points · 11 months ago

Yup, The Netherlands is definitely flat! Also, I knew Spain had mountains, but I had no idea they were all over the country.

You should play Rome:Total War. Takes forever to move troops by land across the peninsula. Much quicker by sea.

Belgium
10 points · 11 months ago

that explain why they have been so good at navigating the sea. they were kind of forced to evolve this way (historically speaking)

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It's pretty scary how much of Spain looks like desert or ar least treeless. Would it be possible to make Spain more foresty?

Andalucía (Spain)
37 points · 11 months ago · edited 11 months ago

Spain The Iberian peninsula has lots of vegetation, it's just that it's addapted for our climate, so it all kinda dries up in the summer, but it's very green in the winter. Here you have a satellite image in winter and summer.

How interesting :D

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Dat hercynian striking. 👌

European Union
4 points · 11 months ago

Try to guess by what factor they multiplied the altitude. Looking at the Dolomites, I'd say around 100.

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Diet America™
5 points · 11 months ago

I don't really know much about history in that area, but the Pyrenees mountains make Spain look like such a nice little defensible area from a military perspective.

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And without most of South Italy, I would have loved to see my beloved Sicily

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Really good work! Spain is awesome

Ireland is not quite right. The whole south east coast is mountainous in this image

The height is exaggerated on the whole map.

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3 points · 11 months ago

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Broadway Boogie Woogie

By Piet Mondrian.